there are very few sold in new york from manufacturers in new york. new york city actually, new york state has a very stringent gun laurx three and a half mandatory years in jail if you carry an illegal loaded gun. we have in new york city very aggressive policing. we have worked very hard with kids to explain to them they just can't have guns but if they do carry guns and we catch them there will be real penalties. we've done things in new york city to make sure-- we have closed the gun show look loophole in new york city. but we can't do it for the whole country. >> david brooks, as you know, suggested that you are the wrong person to be out front on this issue because, he said t is an urban rule issue. and for you to be out front. >> what's wrong with me being an urban rule. i live urban guy, i grew up in a causei rural area what did i miss here? you know, i-- i read david brooks all the time. i think he's brilliant but i don't know where he came up with that. shame on me if i'm, as an american with the wherewithal to do something. i have the bully